Possible to use squirrelmail without pro version of virtualmin?

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#1 Mon, 12/14/2009 - 11:10
steward

Possible to use squirrelmail without pro version of virtualmin?

I have been running the GPL/free version of Virtualmin for almost a year. Finally I needed mail for my domains.

I installed squirrelmail but ran into problems.

My host does not know Virtualmin/Webmin, and they will not support me (They want me to buy their pro panel). I'd rather not give up Virtualmin.

But is it possible to configure/run squirrelmail WITHOUT the pro version?

Do I need to give up Virtualmin so that I can run squirrelmail?

My gut feeling is that this can be done. But I do not have the background/knowledge to tackle the task.

Last response from my host:

The problem is that squirell is saying "here is my mail inbox" and webmin or virtualmin is saying "here is my mail inbox" and both inboxes are different.

Can you try to find some additional Squirellmail plugin for webmin/virtualmin? It's possible that it exist and then all will be easy to make it working.

Mon, 12/14/2009 - 11:16
andreychek

Howdy,

Virtualmin doesn't do anything to interfere with the web apps you'd like to run.

If you can run it without Virtualmin, you can certainly run it with Virtualmin.

Using Squirrelmail with Virtualmin Pro is simply a convenience thing -- it configures all the details for you, helps you keep it up to date, and otherwise tries to save you time.

However, many folks are running Squirrelmail with Virtualmin GPL.

By default, Virtualmin sets up the Dovecot IMAP/POP server for email checking.

Since Squirrelmail does IMAP, you'd typically just set it up to retrieve email via your local IMAP server, which is Dovecot in this case.

If that's not working, we can offer some assistance, but what we'd need to hear are the specific problems you're having.

-Eric

Mon, 12/14/2009 - 18:14
steward

Thank you for a prompt and helpful reply.

Some tweaking of the dovecot settings and it came alive. Great.

I suppose I should know this by now. But since you mention that Virtualmin is "just a convenience" (I understand it as a glorified multiple config editor), would you say the same is also true of webmin?

That is, can I have my host fiddle with any config file, and Virtualmin AND webmin will just load the tweaked file and display whatever setting it has been changed to? Can I tell them not to be so darn scared of my admin panel?!

Again, thanks for the reply. It helped.

Mon, 12/21/2009 - 10:59
andreychek

Howdy,

That is, can I have my host fiddle with any config file, and Virtualmin AND webmin will just load the tweaked file and display whatever setting it has been changed to? Can I tell them not to be so darn scared of my admin panel?!

Yeah, that's actually what initially turned me onto Webmin/Virtualmin... with a lot of control panels, they sort of take everything over. Once you install them, you have to manage all changes via the control panel, or risk things getting crazy broken.

Virtualmin, on the other hand, is pretty awesome about simply reading existing configuration files.

So if you want to make an update to an Apache VirtualHost -- you get to choose, do it via the Webmin/Virtualmin GUI, or fire up vi and make changes directly in the config file. If you use vi, it won't bother Webmin/Virtualmin, and next time you're using the GUI, it'll correctly display the changes (since it reads the config files on the fly).

Just remember that it's not magic.

If you create a database outside of Virtualmin, Virtualmin will have no idea who it belongs to. If you manually remove a VirtualHost config file, Virtualmin will still expect it to be there. And if you disable user quotas from the command line, the Virtualmin quota checking will mysteriously stop working :-)

But I suspect you knew all that! :-)

Have a good one,

-Eric

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