Missing help for usermin

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#1 Sun, 11/18/2007 - 20:58
tabletguy

Missing help for usermin

I couldn't find any help buttons on the usermin main page or side menu. Also can't find one anywhere when looking at email inbox.

I also searched the documentation briefly for the meaning of the button "Deny Senders".

So, could you explain what these mean, or give a link to somewhere in the documentation wiki where they can be found (or add then give link - haha)

Buttons: - Deny Senders - Allow Senders - Special

Is there any way to select a message and then send a "Bounce" message? (as if the account doesn't exist)? I'd like to try reducing the amount of spam I get, although perhaps this is less and less effective anyways...

Could you add a manual refresh button to check email, or am I supposed to use the browser refresh (which implies you have no optimization for this case)?

Fri, 11/23/2007 - 20:14
Joe
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Deny Sender adds the address to the SpamAssassin blacklist, and Allow adds it to the whitelist. It's per-user.

Special marks the message--makes it italics and adds a star beside it. That's probably not a very clear label. It probably ought to include the word "Mark" or "Star".

<div class='quote'>Is there any way to select a message and then send a &quot;Bounce&quot; message? (as if the account doesn't exist)? I'd like to try reducing the amount of spam I get, although perhaps this is less and less effective anyways...</div>

This is completely ineffective. So, no. Usermin can't do it. (It's a fake bounce anyway, since it's already been delivered...so that makes it sort of nonsensical from the RFC perspective.)

As far as fighting spam, I've found that recent SpamAssassin versions are awesome. I get about one spam a day that makes it through. No customizations...just the stock SpamAssassin settings, and ClamAV. But we do plan to integrate one of the policy daemons for Postfix to add a few cheap spam tests (greylisting, SPF, in particular), which are mainly intended to make the mail processing load lower...but may also reduce spam by some amount.

<div class='quote'>Could you add a manual refresh button to check email, or am I supposed to use the browser refresh (which implies you have no optimization for this case)?</div>

We'd have to refresh the browser window anyway, since that's the only way to update the page in the current theme. It is actually quite optimized in the past few revisions of Usermin. Jamie's done a lot of index caching work a few months back. It handles a 30,000 message mailbox without trouble. The UI isn't nearly as nice as the backend, at this point.

The new AJAX theme will automatically refresh the displayed mailbox transparently, but it'll be a couple of weeks before I get to the Usermin side of that project (I'm still wrapping up the Virtualmin/Webmin usability aspects).

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Sat, 11/24/2007 - 19:16
tabletguy

<div class='quote'>Deny Sender adds the address to the SpamAssassin blacklist, and Allow adds it to the whitelist. It's per-user.
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Hmm. Perhaps a suggestion then that you should change the button to say &quot;Blacklist&quot; and &quot;Whitelist&quot; which are more commonly used terms, and can be used as verbs.

I agree that &quot;Special&quot; isn't a verb AND doesn't indicate what action will be taken, both of which would improve the usability.

However, why do you have a button to generate a single new list of &quot;marked&quot; emails? Seems like either a generic solution or no solution would be better. I'd prefer just being able to copy and/or move messages to different folders.

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