Submitted by Rogi on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 08:16
After the latest VM upgrade, my server is suddenly telling me that it wants to get 49 new (Debian) package upgrades?
It didn't want them before this VM update, so I'm suspicious that it doesn't suddenly need them now either.
What do you think? So far I have not let it get anything.
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Closed (fixed)
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Submitted by Rogi on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 10:29 Comment #1
Anyone have a clue about these sudden package update (supposed) requirements?
Had no updates required one minute before the latest VM 'upgrade' and (apparently) forty-nine of them immediately afterwards.
Submitted by andreychek on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 10:34 Comment #2
What do you see if you type "apt-get upgrade -s"?
That does a dry-run, it should only display what apt thinks needs to be installed.
Submitted by Rogi on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 10:49 Comment #3
It says it needs the 49 updates.
Why suddenly after the VM upgrade?
Submitted by Rogi on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 11:05 Comment #4
This is a list of what it says it now wants (sorry for the broken formatting):
Submitted by JamieCameron on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 11:17 Comment #5
In the latest Virtualmin release, it will now offer to upgrade other system packages for you as well.
Previously only those related to Virtualmin and associated software (like Apache and BIND) were offered.
You can tell the difference because Virtualmin updates will appear on the System Information page in a line like :
"One updated Virtualmin package is available. Use the Virtualmin Package Updates module to see all managed packages."
We strongly recommend updating Virtualmin-related packages. Other updates you can make if you want..
Submitted by Rogi on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 11:43 Comment #6
Hi Jamie,
Ah, I see, it's a new feature, sprung upon us unsuspecting users. ;).
Ok, well I have always updated VM related updates as and whenever it asked, but what do you suggest re. that bunch of Debian upgrades? The server VM is on only does, well, VM things via VM - i.e. nothing else runs on it other than a standard VM virtual hosting/email etc. setup.
Leave the Debian upgrades and just stick with the VM-requested things, or go for the Debian stuff too?
Installing all of those Debian updates, none of which are security related as far as I'm aware, is asking for trouble from VM, or not?
What say?
Submitted by JamieCameron on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 12:44 Comment #7
If you don't need them, you can just go with the Virtualmin-specific updates.
The other Debian updates are just offered for your convenience. Debian developers / experts would probably recommend you install them, but there's always a trade-off with potentially breaking something.
Submitted by Rogi on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 12:52 Comment #8
That's what I thought - I'll leave them, for now at least.
Any chance you can also provide an 'off' switch for the new display of non-VM updates - at the moment it's all upgrades or nothing - and even more importantly an 'off' switch for the CPU munching (even with my powerful thing it's munching an average of 10%) new full package checking in collectinfo.pl as well?
In other words, a switch to switch off those particular new features, and the sooner the better with collectinfo's new superpowers. ;)
Thanks.
Submitted by JamieCameron on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 13:12 Comment #9
There will be a switch to turn this off in the next Virtualmin release.
Or see ticket https://www.virtualmin.com/node/11945 for how to disable it right now.
Submitted by JamieCameron on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 13:12 Comment #10
Submitted by Rogi on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 14:25 Comment #11
Thanks Jamie (and Eric in the other thread).
Submitted by Rogi on Fri, 10/23/2009 - 02:13 Comment #12
"The other Debian updates are just offered for your convenience."
Actually, it seems that all of those package updates were security related, so I have now installed them.
Nothing, so far, seems to have broken.
Submitted by Issues on Fri, 11/06/2009 - 03:36 Comment #13
Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.