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#1 Wed, 11/19/2008 - 02:37
reelstuff

amazon ami

am i right, that if an amazon instance goes down all data is lost? only recoverable if there is a backup server image on s3? how about the amazon ebs feature with persistent data storage? can an ebs volume be added and used by virtualmin?

Tue, 03/25/2008 - 11:33
reelstuff

Here is an update, if anyone is at all interested, not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I am thinking of buying a license, (hint)

I Finally got the tools working, and loaded, the virtual image,

The apache page, shows up, fine, (fast too)<br><br>Post edited by: reelstuff, at: 2008/03/25 17:23

Tue, 03/25/2008 - 11:48 (Reply to #2)
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Have you opened the ports in the EC2 firewall, per the documentation here:

http://www.webmin.com/ec2.html

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Tue, 03/25/2008 - 12:15 (Reply to #3)
reelstuff

Hi, I replied below, but for some odd reason, when I clicked quote, to reply to your post, it posted, to my previous post, strange,

Anyway as you probably saw, I did open the ports, but did have a problem logging in as root, tried, a couple of pass words, as suggested, root

changeme, did not work, may be a specific, login, syntax, expected,

I was wondering, if you could recommend which license to buy, or will there be a new license when V2 comes out, I saw the paid AMI, that might be good too, just eyeballing this and will probably make a purchase, once I figure it all out, very cool stuff BTW

Tue, 03/25/2008 - 14:11 (Reply to #4)
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I don't actually know a lot about the EC2 stuff...but it looks like you need a key for ssh, not a password. Isn't that what the key generation step is all about? (But maybe I'm misreading.)

I'll ask Jamie to chime in. He's far more familiar with EC2 than I.

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Tue, 03/25/2008 - 11:54 (Reply to #5)
reelstuff

<b>reelstuff wrote:</b>
<div class='quote'>Here is an update, if anyone is at all interested, not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I am thinking of buying a license, (hint)

I Finally got the tools working, and loaded, the virtual image,

The apache page, shows up, fine, (fast too)

But webmin, does not respond, to 10000/

Not sure what the issue might be, but would sure love to have a look at the software running this way.

I guess I could load the paid image, but not sure what the charges would be, because it is not mentioned, or perhaps, it is, well its a little foggy at the very least.

This could be a lot of fun, running it on EC2, the possibilities are really interesting, anyone run this image before, and been able to connect to the webmin, portion of the software,

Also, anyone know what the default SSH, pass, might be?

If I cant get to the webmin portion perhaps I can login and see the install, from SSH</div>

Hi yes, using the tools,

mypath/bin/ec2-authorize default -p 10000

did that for each ltem listed,

The only mild issue I found was, when logging into SSH, was unable to get a pass to work,

but the instance loaded fine, I guess, webmin does not start automatically on instance load?

Tue, 03/25/2008 - 15:01 (Reply to #6)
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Hi reelstuff,

Can you SSH is as root using the SSH key that you registered with EC2? Normally when an instance is created, only that key will work initially .. you can't use a password to SSH in as root.

I usually use a command like :

ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa-gsg-keypair root@ec2-...something...amazonaws.com

If this works, you can then make sure Webmin is started with the command :

/etc/webmin/start

and then set the password with :

/usr/libexec/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root yournewpassword

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Tue, 03/25/2008 - 15:11 (Reply to #7)
reelstuff

Thanks Jamie, I appreciate the info and also Joe for helping out,

I decided to go with the paid AMI, so this info will help out in either case.

I am currently developing a custom interface for using AWS, services, at least that is my goal.

I have learned that the *nix command line is somewhat different than the days of DOS, buried somewhere in my severely damaged brain cells, is a recollection of those dim days, where, I would boot up the commodore 64 and play, submarine, actually I still have a copy on disc somewhere, but I digress.

I expect that I might need to create a module at some point, but for now I am going to dig into this AMI and see what is what, thanks for the help,

Tim

Tue, 03/25/2008 - 15:35 (Reply to #8)
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Ok .. please let us know if you are still having any problems, or run into any new ones in future.

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Tue, 03/25/2008 - 15:39 (Reply to #9)
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Hey Tim,

I'll take this opportunity to mention that you probably won't have to write a lot of code. Our newest product, currently in private beta, has pretty extensive EC2 management functionality (in addition to management of several other types of virtualized server, and physical servers). We expect to launch this product publicly in about three to four weeks.

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Tue, 03/25/2008 - 16:21 (Reply to #10)
reelstuff

<div class='quote'>Ok .. please let us know if you are still having any problems, or run into any new ones in future.</div>

Well now that you mention it, I am just short of getting logged on, using your example, had to chmod, the keypair file, but all is well,

except, now it is asking for Enter passphrase for key 'id_rsa-vgpl-keypair':

removed full path from example,

I tried, my AWS keys, and others, passes, not sure what it wants,

So far every pass I try ends in permission denied,

Tue, 03/25/2008 - 16:28 (Reply to #11)
reelstuff

<div class='quote'>Hey Tim,

I'll take this opportunity to mention that you probably won't have to write a lot of code. Our newest product, currently in private beta, has pretty extensive EC2 management functionality (in addition to management of several other types of virtualized server, and physical servers). We expect to launch this product publicly in about three to four weeks.</div>

That is cool, I was looking at the docs on that, looks very interesting,

I also just got into SimpleDB, and DEVpay, but not ready for the DEVpay just yet,

I look forward to getting my hands dirty, I love to play with new stuff,

sounds like v2 is cutting edge,

Tue, 03/25/2008 - 17:27 (Reply to #12)
reelstuff

<div class='quote'>Ok .. please let us know if you are still having any problems, or run into any new ones in future.

Well now that you mention it, I am just short of getting logged on, using your example, had to chmod, the keypair file, but all is well,

except, now it is asking for Enter passphrase for key 'id_rsa-vgpl-keypair':

removed full path from example,

I tried, my AWS keys, and others, passes, not sure what it wants,

So far every pass I try ends in permission denied,</div>

Ok, Im in, at root,

Man, that was interesting, I had to change some things around, to get into the instance via root,

the first rsa, was born empty, (may not have had permission to write, to file)

So made a new one, killed the old and started a new image, (different image,)

it has to be beer thirty,

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