How to use Virtualmin like cPanel? Remote access to upload files and management.

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#1 Sat, 04/25/2015 - 06:58
eiger3970

How to use Virtualmin like cPanel? Remote access to upload files and management.

How can I use Virtualmin like cPanel? I need to access the domain from a remote location and upload some website files. (other controls would be good too, like cPanel)

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 09:20
Diabolico
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You can use FTP, SSH or SFTP to access and upload/edit files on your server. More or less you can do same things like with cPanel but Virtualmin is not so user friendly if you dont know at least basics about hosting, its lacking of some "easy to do stuff" and is not full of bloatware, e.g. fancy things no one needs but they looks awesome. On other side Virtualmin is more flexible, offers more customization and "fine tune" then cPanel. Both panels have their cons and pros but if you lack in basic knowledge in hosting (and looks like this is the case) you have two choices: learn at least some basics in hosting and virtualmin or stick with cPanel. I need to access the domain from a remote location and upload some website files. If you find yourself asking questions like this that means you are not ready for VPS/Dedi and best would be to keep your production/live sites on shared hosting and in mean time take some cheap VPS and learn how to manage with a help of Virtualmin.

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Sat, 04/25/2015 - 20:53
eiger3970

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I know about FTP, SSH etc... My question is if there is a GUI like cPanel to added emails etc from a 3rd party's point of view. I.e., a paying customer who can edit their website, but not have access to the entire Virtualmin system.

Also, the FTP access is not clear, as I usually upload the website files via FTP or SSH to the LAN IP. However, I now need a 3rd party to upload website files. They will need an FTP or SSH public WAN IP address and maybe a port number to gain access? Also, the access should only be limited to the 1 website, not the whole virtualmin system.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 14:14 (Reply to #3)
siteXmedia

I am not experienced with Web/Virtualmin yet but I think you can allow them access to the Webmin panel

What they are allowed to do in that is the same as using CPanel, it is controlled by the plan allocated to that domain

OR

You can set it up under the domain / Administration Options / Allowed capabilities and features

For your ip problem you may want to have a look at the "IP address and forwarding" feature which can be set up when you create the domain, not sure where to look once it has been created.

Hope that helps...

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 10:05
andreychek

My question is if there is a GUI like cPanel to added emails etc from a 3rd party's point of view. I.e., a paying customer who can edit their website, but not have access to the entire Virtualmin system.

Sure -- if you create a Virtual Server as the Master Admin, you would also setup an account for a Virtual Server owner when doing that.

That Virtual Server owner can log in and manage that one account, but nothing else.

They'd be able to add email accounts, manage DNS, databases, and such -- but just for that one account, they won't have access to everything that the Master Admin (root) can see.

-Eric

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 22:52
eiger3970

Thank you for the reply. That's great, but I think that's even too much for what I'm offering. I setup the Virtual Server and now I need to provide them with an IP address, username and password to FTP or SSH in to upload their website. How do I do this basic access, as I always access locally with LAN IP 192.168.1.165. Do I give them my public WAN IP:portnumber?

This would be like a 1st level customer who has little need for technical info. The 2nd level would be what you suggested where they could manage their website a bit further.

Does Virtualmin have any plugins to create a charging account for these services?

Also, I just searched Virtualmin documentation on how to setup a Virtual Server owners account and didn't see any clear documentation? I can guess Edit Users, but maybe you can point me to a clear process?

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 04:41
fakemoth
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eiger3970 You should read maybe a bit more about port forwarding, it's the only way you can do that if you are hosting this inside your LAN. This means you have to configure the router to do that, and it's less scary than it sounds. But I trust you have a static IP from your internet provider. And Virtualmin works best for the entry level guys if you assign a static IP directly for the server. And of course you have to provide them with the server name or external/public IP address.

Another options from Webmin this time (not really necessary to give them SFTP or SSH - SSH I bet you don't want to):

  • you can enable the File manager for that domain. They will be able to upload/download files and manage them in a friendly manner. Also edit the files, priceless for small edits.

  • you can also enable the Upload and Download feature, so they can upload a zip, uncompress it and than delete the archive for example, in a certain directory.

You can find those under Webmin > Others. Good luck and test those yourself first, to get a grip. And do not expose your root account under any circumstances.

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 08:43
eiger3970

Thanks. I went to Virtualmin > selected domain > Webmin > Others > File Manager > IcedTeawebplugin error. I didn't see any option to setup a customer user?

I'm guessing I port forward 10000 to the LAN IP 192.168.1.165?

Still not clear on any documentation to set this up and manage permissions?

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 09:07
fakemoth
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Well, the File Manager doesn't work well with IcedTea, only with Oracle Java (my problem for years, but I managed to get it to work partially); install and use Java from Oracle, just accept the certificate and you are done.

The permission management is not a very big deal, you just select in System > Server templates > Administrator's Webmin modules > File Manager, read the documentation please. You will see that your users who access Webmin for that domain are jailed in their home - a bit problematic if you were to use SSH, that's why I suggested not to. But test it first. And FTP is totally insecure. SFTP is the real option but maybe beyond your intentions.

And yes, you have to forward the 10000 port (if that is the one Webmin/Virtualmin is using); also 80 to be able to access the website.

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 00:08
eiger3970

Thank you for your reply. Java is a real pain. I have Jave installed, jdk installed and this IcedTea thing still causes issues. I'm sure it worked before, so why doesn't this update to Java?

No, there's no such path Virtualmin > domain > Webmin > System > Server templates.

Yes, I read documentation, however no clear documentation has been found abut setting up customer access to uploading website files with paths to navigate to.

Okay, I work n the port forward once the customer access setup has a clear navigation path documented.

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 00:46
fakemoth
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You can also install Java from Oracle, like the "original Java", search the web for tutorials, there are lots of them, if your default IcedTea installation doesn't work. Here it is not the place for a how to in this regard. The problem is only on your local computer that doesn't load the Java applet from Webmin.

Important: hope you are not using Chrome/Chromium browser because Google removed Java support years ago! Try Firefox for this one.

And AFTER you properly create a domain, using a server template and a plan, with a corresponding user, that user after login will see only his domain and can manage only that. And if you followed what I wrote, they will also have a link in Webmin > Others, called File Manager to that module, that will confine them to their home directory in the File Manager. Simple as that. And they will be able to manage files and directories there, upload, download, edit, so on.

In fact, you can do this "blindly" if yourself can't access the File Manager, and if they have a working Java installation on their computer it's their problem. Because it works.

You can't give rights and access in the File Manager module itself, they are inherited from Webmin and Virtualmin combined. So I guess you don't know how to create a domain and work with plans/templates/features/modules. Sorry to say - you have to catch up with the documentation, it is quite clear. And don't expect to get a hang of it in a couple of weeks; these panels are quite complex and require a learning curve. Not your average cPanel/Plesk (oh dear, good for us!). :)

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 21:01
eiger3970

Yes, I am using Firefox and I installed Java...again from https://java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml#install, but Firefox shows the error when I go to Virtualmin > domain > Webmin > Other > File Manager:

The folloing exception has occured. For more information, try to launch the browser from the command line and examine the output. For even more information you can visit http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/IcedTea-Web and follow the steps described there on how to obtain necessary information to file bug Additional information may be available in the console or logs. Even more information is available if debugging is enabled.

Another available info: IcedTea-Web Plugin version: 1.5 (1.5-1ubuntu1) 1/05/15 10:56 AM Exception was: net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. For more information click "more information button". at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:746) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:675) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:908) Caused by: net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: The applet is signed but its manifest specifies Sandbox permissions. This is not yet supported. Try running the applet again, but choose the Sandbox run option. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:206) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkAll(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:79) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader. (JNLPClassLoader.java:288) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.createInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:351) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:418) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:394) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:711) ... 2 more Caused by: net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Run in Sandbox call performed too late. The classloader was notified to run the applet sandboxed, but security settings were already initialized. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader$SecurityDelegateImpl.setRunInSandbox(JNLPClassLoader.java:2385) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:203) ... 8 more This is the list of exceptions that occurred launching your applet. Please note, those exceptions can originate from multiple applets. For a helpful bug report, be sure to run only one applet. 1) at 1/05/15 10:56 AM net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Run in Sandbox call performed too late. The classloader was notified to run the applet sandboxed, but security settings were already initialized. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader$SecurityDelegateImpl.setRunInSandbox(JNLPClassLoader.java:2385) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:203) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkAll(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:79) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader. (JNLPClassLoader.java:288) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.createInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:351) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:418) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:394) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:711) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:675) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:908) 2) at 1/05/15 10:56 AM net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: The applet is signed but its manifest specifies Sandbox permissions. This is not yet supported. Try running the applet again, but choose the Sandbox run option. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:206) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkAll(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:79) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader. (JNLPClassLoader.java:288) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.createInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:351) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:418) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:394) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:711) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:675) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:908) Caused by: net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Run in Sandbox call performed too late. The classloader was notified to run the applet sandboxed, but security settings were already initialized. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader$SecurityDelegateImpl.setRunInSandbox(JNLPClassLoader.java:2385) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:203) ... 8 more 3) at 1/05/15 10:56 AM net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. For more information click "more information button". at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:746) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:675) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:908) Caused by: net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: The applet is signed but its manifest specifies Sandbox permissions. This is not yet supported. Try running the applet again, but choose the Sandbox run option. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:206) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkAll(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:79) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader. (JNLPClassLoader.java:288) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.createInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:351) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:418) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.getInstance(JNLPClassLoader.java:394) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:711) ... 2 more Caused by: net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Run in Sandbox call performed too late. The classloader was notified to run the applet sandboxed, but security settings were already initialized. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader$SecurityDelegateImpl.setRunInSandbox(JNLPClassLoader.java:2385) at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.ManifestAttributesChecker.checkPermissionsAttribute(ManifestAttributesChecker.java:203) ... 8 more

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 00:17
fakemoth
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Told you two times already - follow some random online "how to" about how to install and use Oracle Java. On any distro "update-alternatives --config java" should let you config which Java version to use, because you are still using IcedTea Java...

It is a local problem, with your computer, not Webmin/Virtualmin related. And any issues regarding this should be posted in the Ubuntu forums. Read here, and just don't follow it blindly http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:04
eiger3970

Okay, I lodged a fault here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276345&p=13276836#post13276836

I also checked the fault with some others and they say it's a Virtulamin error.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:27
eiger3970

I tried this which fixed this IcedTea thingy last time, but same error now: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre icedtea-7-plugin > Reboot > Firefox (Chrome doesn't support it).

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 18:19
eiger3970

IcedTea still broken. Noone knows how to fix it. Why so many problems with Virtualmin? Is cPanel more reliable?

Sun, 05/03/2015 - 01:14
fakemoth
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Yes it is, please use cPanel.

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 23:42
eiger3970

Hello, thanks for the support. I'll keep trying as almost there for now. Will see if cPanel can be setup too later.

So, I tried FTP to: Host www.domain.com Username: admin (email address is admin@domain.com) Password: password Port: 22.

I port forwarded the router to the Virtualmin LAN IP:10000.

FTP error: Could not connect to server.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 01:58
Diabolico
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@eiger3970: Default port for FTP is 21 (22 is for SSH). You should really spend some time reading at least basics about hosting because doesnt matter what control panel you will use it will always be a problem with something. This would be like a 1st level customer who has little need for technical info. The 2nd level would be what you suggested where they could manage their website a bit further. Correct me but by my understanding your intention is to host other people sites on your server located at home? If this is true i think you should learn some basics before you take money from others and stop playing russian roulette with other people data. Giving you advice to help you to quickly patch up your lack of knowledge is no way to go and i would feel personally responsible for all future damage made to your clients. Buy reseller account from some host and cheap VPS so you can host your clients in peace and in mean time learn all what you need about hosting, without fear to screw your clients data.

- I often come to the conclusion that my brain has too many tabs open. -
Failing at desktop publishing & graphic design since 1994.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 02:43
fakemoth
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Diabolico is one of the users with whom I don't get along here; doesn't mean he is wrong, just impolite, kinda brutal :) But you should follow his advice.

I am not wrong also; usually I am sarcastic because after I try to explain things, help around, offering best options to my best abilities, I find myself writing pages and pages for dudes that are ignoring them. Because for me in openSUSE it works with IcedTea by default; also Oracle. So I end up usually replying to a "vs cPanel post" something like:

Yes it is, please use cPanel.

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 08:15
Diabolico
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@fakemoth: impolite no, brutal probably i could agree with this.

We (all people who are in one way or another in hosting) already have so many problems because some people didnt properly secure and manage their servers. There is no day when i dont get at least 100+ brute force or spam and more than half of that is coming from servers whose owners didnt properly secure their stuff. On top of all this just google or go to WHT or LET forums and read all horror stories coming from clients who got screwed by fly-by-night hosting. Hosting from home is big NO if you think to sell your service to others. Home connection is not good and doesnt even matter how fast it is there is always limitation imposed by ISP for the same reason, so you could not transform your fast line into money making solution. If you really want this then, if there is an option, you must pay (expensive) business connection.

I dont want to say if early mentioned things would not exist there will be no scanning bots, hacking attempts or spam but you can be sure it would be at much lower level then its now. Another thing is to consider negative impact coming from fly-by-night hosting or non-professional hosting as usually customers after so stressed and bad experience dont trust anymore any small hosting and end up in the hands of bad but big hosting like EIG (bluehost and co) or big and good but a lot more expensive host.

Help someone its ok and i dont find any problem doing this but lets face it, (too??)many people who come here with low knowledge using Vmin GPL thinks how running hosting is easy and quick money. Helping such cases doesnt bring anything good, hosting industry is already full of bad apples and we dont need to help to bring new one.

This is just my opinion and OP should learn things about hosting and spend some money and investing in something he or she believe it could be profitable business.

- I often come to the conclusion that my brain has too many tabs open. -
Failing at desktop publishing & graphic design since 1994.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 10:15 (Reply to #21)
siteXmedia

I have to agree with what Diabolico said regards hosting at home, it is not something that I would ever try and do for myself, let alone for another person, especially if you are charging them money.

You can buy VPS hosting so cheap and it is a great way to start the learning process, I used VPSLatch.com for a couple of years and the service was good, but the 24hr support, via live chat and a ticket system was excellent. There are plenty of others so you can shop around, but having a 24hr support team when you are starting out is much needed and I was extremely grateful for.

I have just moved to a very cheap dedicated server, with NO support and am missing the ability to have somebody fix things for me as I make one F**k up after another.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 03:14
eiger3970

Thank you for the replies. I really aren't any further towards a solution through.

I know port 21 is FTP and 22 is SSH. However the FTP client tends to change the port to 22, which I believe is SFTP.

So, at the moment I'm working on some sites with non customers, which is a good way for learners to develop reliable technology before selling to the marketplace. There's no money involved...it's a learning process.

You seem concerned about inexperienced webhost providers, so please help others learn so when the system is running reliably, quality can be provided to customers.

So, how can I use cPanel with Virtualmin, or are cPanel and Virtualmin incompatible?

Looking forward to getting the system running as I have 2 sites to webhost for others (no money involved).

:)

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 05:34
eiger3970

So, here is the issue again of the FTP not working.

I'm receiving error from the FTP client: Connection established, waiting for welcome messageā€¦ Could not read from socket ECONNRESET - Connection reset by peer Could not connect to server

I've tried: Host: example.com Username: admin Password: password Port:

Host: example.com Username: admin@example.com Password: password Port: 21

Host: example.com:10000 Username: admin Password: password Port:

Host: example.com:10000 Username: admin@example.com Password: password Port: 21

Host: example.com:10000 Username: admin@example.com Password: password Port: 10000

I have port forwarded my router's ports 21 and 10000 to the Virtualmin LAN address 192.168.1.165.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 06:45
Diabolico
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You seem concerned about inexperienced webhost providers, so please help others learn so when the system is running reliably, quality can be provided to customers. Hosting from home is not same as from a DC. While you can use server at home to test some application you cant do that with hosting. Today you can find cheap VPS for literally 4-6$/month and if you dont have that money it brings up next problem: So, how can I use cPanel with Virtualmin, or are cPanel and Virtualmin incompatible? From where did you buy cPanel licence? On side note Virtualmin is same as cPanel so to have both running on the same server is not recommended. I know port 21 is FTP and 22 is SSH. However the FTP client tends to change the port to 22, which I believe is SFTP. If they dont have SSH access they cant use SFTP, if they have enabled this option then same login details for SSH apply for SFTP.

Last but not least: Looking forward to getting the system running as I have 2 sites to webhost for others (no money involved). Charge them some minimum amount, enough to cover reseller hosting and buy cheap VPS so you can start learning. You cant do that with live/production sites.

- I often come to the conclusion that my brain has too many tabs open. -
Failing at desktop publishing & graphic design since 1994.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 07:17
siteXmedia

There is nothing wrong with trying to learn, but as you often see on Tv shows "Don't try this at home" - In your case learning can be done using webmin / Virtualmin for your own use from the home side but it gets complicated when you want to invite others to access the system.

I have fairly limited knowledge of web hosting compared to most around here and do struggle, but as I said above hosting a web server at home was never considered and even now, with the experience I have gained I would not consider it.

As Diabolico said above

1. Hosting at home is not the same as a data centre, so you are not learning what you need and will struggle to set it up, as you are doing. your problems will continue and you will keep struggling to learn.

2. CPanel & Virtualmin do the same job, so use one or the other, they also work in different ways so it is not good to run both on the same server.

3. Buy cheap hosting and charge the customers a small fee for it, hosting is so cheap and you do not need to charge them that much. You usually get CPanel for free

If I can get Cloudmin working I would gladly give you a VPS to use for a few months to help you learn.

Sun, 05/17/2015 - 10:13
Diabolico
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The problem i have with OP is that he want to learn how to host from home and not how to host. Two absolutely different things. Not even counting questionable cPanel license what could be nulled software found on torrents. If not then after 15 days cPanel will stop to work and in this time is not enough to learn anything. Thats why i said i smell "fly-by-night" hosting here.

- I often come to the conclusion that my brain has too many tabs open. -
Failing at desktop publishing & graphic design since 1994.

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 00:59
eiger3970

I fixed the FTP, so thanks for all your help. The new domain name need the name servers pointing the correct IP.

So, how do I remotely access Virtulamin, like I could access cPanel to configure settings?

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 01:00
eiger3970

I fixed the FTP, so thanks for all your help. The new domain name needed the name servers pointing to the correct IP.

So, how do I remotely access Virtulamin, like I could access cPanel to configure settings?

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 01:24
fakemoth
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No problem hosting anything from "home". Well if it is not exactly a "home" but a server room that is. This is how I started and this is how I am working at the moment, no plans to migrate to "the real sh...". Long time overclocker/modder/hardware dealer here so I know exactly what are the limits of my equipment. For example I don't need a bunker lol. For me = data centers are overrated, overkill, bad for SMB, bad for startups and enthusiasts, and usually bad as a business to deal with. It is exactly like the (lost) fight between a supermarket and your local grocery store - I bet you miss his slightly expensive tomatoes by now :)

And I love to have my own hardware to tinker, everything installed/configured by me, my own networks and ISPs, everything under my control.

Thing is, the OP is a forum troll (initially thought of a SEO/marketing clown) even if a deceivingly polite one. Moderators please close this topic.

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 05:35
Diabolico
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Thing is, the OP is a forum troll (initially thought of a SEO/marketing clown) even if a deceivingly polite one. Moderators please close this topic. And you said i'm brutal. :) But i must admit same thing come into my mind.

For hosting from home i never took that seriously enough to actually do it.

- I often come to the conclusion that my brain has too many tabs open. -
Failing at desktop publishing & graphic design since 1994.

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 06:34
fakemoth
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Aye, the Brutal Truth :) Oh my, lookie here https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=use+virtualmin+or+cpanel some common keywords - few more days, few more posts, and a link = problem solved eiger3970, right? And with us not playing nice with him :)

Never mind the fact this useless "thread" is like "pinned" in the forum list. Please close this.

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 06:33
siteXmedia

eiger3970 to access the server if your domain works it should be your-domain.com:10000 for webmin or your-domain.com:20000 for usermin

As you say, there is nothing wrong with hosting a server at home and depending on your needs it can be done if you know what you are doing.

One factor is the internet connection that you have, mine at present is:- 50Mbps download and a 3Mbps upload which is far greater than the 1.5Mbps download / 0.3Mbps upload I had 6 months ago. Internet speed is not a big problem if you only have a few people visiting your site.

The other factor is knowing what you are doing, with a cheap managed VPS for a few dollars from the big hosting companies, you also get 24hr support to assist yo when it all goes wrong. As it often does when you are learning.

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 06:49
fakemoth
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@siteXmedia are you working with him by any chance? Because he clearly authenticated to Virtualmin, and is just asking non sense questions to which you reply with non sense answers?

Never mind none of you react properly/naturally to me and Diabolico. So this is business/fun related not a genuine interest. So... see? We have our own Turing test adaptation going on here.

Moderators please close this; people please do not respond any further.

Don't take the name of root in vain...

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 07:55 (Reply to #34)
siteXmedia

Not sure what your point is, any answer I have given is in good faith to try and assist.

You on the other hand are just acting as any other troll would and not actually providing anything helpful.

Do you have the ability to be constructive rather than a troll?

Please explain why you think I have given "non sense answers".

What do you mean by "Never mind none of you react properly/naturally to me and Diabolico"

Mon, 05/18/2015 - 08:28
fakemoth
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I apologize if it's not your case, but read the whole thread, we did try to help him. You will come to the same conclusion as me. Because after everything wrote here he asks:

So, how do I remotely access Virtulamin, like I could access cPanel to configure settings?

Note that almost in every post (and truly non-sense posts) he mentiones cPanel and Virtualmin. First I thought he doesn't write well in english but his posts suggest otherwise. Than thought he is a a SEO/spamdexing/keyword farmer guy, but he didn't post any links. So called him a troll, and asked for a block.

Figured you are riding the same wagon... as we kept posting for closing the thread, and you were answering.

Please do not call me a troll, else will be clear you misunderstood me also. Sorry for any inconvenience; and someone must close this.

Don't take the name of root in vain...