Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • datenimperator
  • 02/27/09
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Posted: Fri, 2009-02-27 03:17

Hi, I'm about to dump Plesk8/9 (which my web host gave me for free) in favor of Virtualmin Pro, even if I have to pay for it separately. Still, there's no migration of plesk9 servers yet, will there be, eventually? Regards,

Christian


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • andreychek
  • 01/05/09
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  • Fri, 2009-02-27 04:44

I'd post a feature request in the bug tracker. Given a Plesk 9 backup file, Jamie may be able to help out. -Eric


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • Joe
  • 10/23/08
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  • Fri, 2009-02-27 11:01

It might Just Work. I don't know about Plesk, but our backup format changes very slowly...I imagine their's is probably similar (but maybe they consider it a competitive advantage to constantly change the format to make it harder for folks to move their data off).

Anyway, we are more than happy to work with you on getting new versions supported. At least 50% of our customers are coming from other control panels (with cPanel being the most popular, and Plesk being a reasonable second)...we want to make it as easy as possible for you to make the transition.

As Eric mentioned, file a ticket and provide an example backup file with all the features you use enabled, and Jamie will get it all working.


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • Joe
  • 10/23/08
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  • Wed, 2009-03-11 18:50

Plesk 9 actually does have a completely different backup format (go go incompatibility!), but Jamie jumped on it in response to the ticket that I guess Christian filed. It will be supported in the next version of Virtualmin, coming in a couple of days. I saw the "Plesk 9 support finished!" check-in just a day or two ago, so it's definitely in there.


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • colech
  • 04/08/09
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  • Thu, 2009-04-09 14:57

andreychek wrote: I'd post a feature request in the bug tracker. Given a Plesk 9 backup file, Jamie may be able to help out. -Eric

Hello, I'm getting ready to do my first migration from Plesk 9 of about 100 domains. I am putting this on a RHEL server which has a default web directory of /var/www/html. Since the default for virtualmin is /home, what should I do? I don't want to change all references in RHEL to /home if possible.


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • Joe
  • 10/23/08
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  • Thu, 2009-04-09 15:04

I don't want to change all references in RHEL to /home if possible.

I don't think I understand what you mean here. What references are you talking about?


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • colech
  • 04/08/09
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  • Mon, 2009-04-13 05:47

joe wrote: I don't think I understand what you mean here. What references are you talking about? When I create a virtual server in virtualmin, it creates a directory with the website DocumentRoot set to /home/domain/public_html. I would prefer it to be located at /var/www/html/domain-name/public_html since /var/www/html is the default web directory in RedHat Enterprise Linux. After looking at more posts about susexec and how simple it is to just change the main DocumentRoot in httpd.conf, I decided that the /home directory is probably a better place to keep things after all.


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • Joe
  • 10/23/08
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  • Mon, 2009-04-13 09:00

After looking at more posts about susexec and how simple it is to just change the main DocumentRoot in httpd.conf, I decided that the /home directory is probably a better place to keep things after all.

Hehehe...Yeah, we thought pretty hard about it, before making the change (it's a lot more work for us, but a lot less work for our users).


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • katir
  • 03/26/08
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  • Wed, 2009-03-11 18:03

Just to say that I made a similar decision 2 years back and I think it was Plesk 8 but at that time there were some caveats and the virtualMin team were "all over it" and helped me thru... and it was the sweetest upgrade/migration to a new box/os/panel I ever had in 18 years managing our web servers. It turned out definitely to be the right decision... go for it!


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • pastoolio
  • 03/16/09
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  • Sun, 2009-03-15 23:10

Awesome news, I am about the move from Plesk to Virtualmin.


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • mdtiberi
  • 02/09/09
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  • Wed, 2009-03-18 14:11

I dumped Plesk 8.6 about a month ago in favor of Webmin. I am using CentOS 5.2 as well as the Atomic Secured Linux kernel (ASL).

I have to say that Webmin is far better to work with then Plesk. I didn't bother upgrading to Plesk 9.0 given all of the problems and the lack of timely support. It is not that Webmin isn't without it's issues but they are tame compared to Plesk (been using Plesk for 2+ years). Certainly I have encountered a few problems along the way with file permissions, GUI weirdness, etc. but nothing dramatic.

I really like Postfix/Dovesot and most importantly it works well not like some of the issues in Plesk 9. The Plesk firewall isn't a very good implementation. I had to learn iptables rules in order to use it effectively but so far so good.

This forum (Joe and Eric) along with Google will pretty much solve any issues you might have. As far as the migration from Plesk to Webmin, I really wouldn't bother. I know it might be a pain especially if your hosting a lot of sites but in the long run I think you'll be better off.

Good luck


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • mdtiberi
  • 02/09/09
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  • Wed, 2009-03-18 16:29

I should be clear about my last point. My suggestion is to build your Webmin based server from the ground up rather than relying on migration software to do the trick. Just my opinion for what its worth and no sleight intended on the excellent skills of Jamie and his team.


Re:Plesk9 migration roadmap?

  • Joe
  • 10/23/08
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  • Wed, 2009-03-18 17:42

My suggestion is to build your Webmin based server from the ground up rather than relying on migration software to do the trick.

That's the only option. The "migration" doesn't convert a Plesk server into a Virtualmin server...it just allows you to import backups from a Plesk system into a Virtualmin system. "Migrating" the virtual servers from one system to another.

Just don't want there to be any confusion about what the migration tools are for or are capable of. We would never attempt to fix a Plesk or cPanel system...they're both extremely intrusive (cPanel moreso, but Plesk isn't exactly gentle either), and cleaning up the mess they leave just wouldn't be feasible.


Migration Plesk to Virtualmin

  • chilli2050
  • 01/13/10
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  • Tue, 2010-01-19 23:12

I just received my license for Virtualmin, but I am a little concerned about upgrading or converting my Plesk panel to Virtualmin? Are there any pitfalls that I should be aware of? My system looks like this: AMD 62 X 2 - psa 9.2.2 92090714.19 DEBIAN 4.0

Help!


Well, your best bet for

  • andreychek
  • 01/05/09
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  • Tue, 2010-01-19 23:17

Well, your best bet for making this work would be to install Virtualmin on a fresh server, and have it import your Plesk backups.

Support for importing Plesk 9 backups was adding in early 2009, so you should be in good shape in that regard.

You may want to perform a test run of all this, before making things live. Do an import of your various Plesk domains, and just make sure things work as you'd expect.

You could either do that on a fresh server, or maybe even a Virtual Machine running something like VMware or Virtualbox.

-Eric